Showing posts with label Nate Schierholtz. Show all posts
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Monday, September 26, 2011

No playoffs, but I can still find 10 positive things about the 2011 Giants


Tim Kawakami breaks down the 10 positive things to take from the 2011 season and looks to 2012.  I'm not sure I agree with the Zito position, but his lack of mention to Vogelsong, may mean that he believes Vogie will ask fro a few bucks as a free agent next year.  Either way, the prospect of J. Sanchez and Zito as the 4, 5 pitchers isn't what I would be rejoicing about.  I want Vogelsong back in the 4 spot and let the money and spring determine the 5 spot.  Vogelsong has earned the spot.

-Many of us–yes, even a sweet & kind writer like me–have focused almost wholly on the Giants’ faults for the last several months.
Because there are faults. And because winning the World Series last year elevated the way the 2011 were–and had to be–judged.
Hey, the Giants owners themselves cut loose their managing general partner this season, so you know it’s a harsh time.
But after last night’s Arizona clinching, and with the Giants a few hours or days away from total playoff elimination, I figured it’s time to remember that there were, indeed, real bright spots to this season.
All was not lost. In fact, on balance, facing what the Giants faced and with the extra pressure of trying against hope to repeat, I’d say it was not a bad effort, realistically.
Not great, obviously. But not terrible.
* Here’s my list of the 10 most positive developments for the Giants in 2011…
1. They didn’t quit, when they could have done exactly that four or five separate times, starting in late-May when Buster Posey went down and continuing through just a few weeks aago.
Of course, the pitching is what kept the Giants churning, day after day, even in the lowest times. But it’s a credit to the entire roster that, when they all could’ve checked out, time and again, they didn’t.
Well, not all of them, anyway.
It was, in many ways, keyed by Bruce Bochy’s persona–stoic at times, but steel-eyed and determined to keep moving forward, if possible.
The most recent and perhaps most impressive example is the 8-game winning streak that started immediately after the Giants basically fell out of the NL West race and kept them in it mathematically, at least until the D-Backs started splashing in the outfield pool.
Bonus: The late run might’ve given Carlos Beltran something good to remember about his time in SF.
The Giants won’t get into the big free-agent bidding, but if Beltran doesn’t get a monster offer, he could be searching for a fallback, and maybe the Giants are a third-tier fallback for him.
-Conclusion: Bochy still has control of the clubhouse.
2. The Giants’ pitching was fantastic once again, and, even more importantly,stayed healthy despite carrying the whole burden.
Look at the injuries to Boston’s staff. Look at Atlanta’s staff. Look at the A’s.
Good pitching can be fragile and good pitching in back-to-back seasons of high-stress can absolutely get ravaged.
Yet, the Giants’ top starters were as good or better than they were in 2010–they got 30+ starts out of Lincecum, Cain and Bumgarner.
That’s AFTER all those extra innings last October.
Plus, with the addition of Ryan Vogelsong (basically subbing in for Jonathan Sanchez, eventually), the 1-through-4 rotation was more dependable than ever.
And nothing is a better predictor for future health than past and current health. Especially for young pitchers.
No rotation ever goes forever without some injury issue, but these are excellent signs for the sustained long-term health of the Giants’ rotation.
Bonus positivity: None of the top four starters are eligible for free-agency this off-season. (Lincecum and Vogelsong are slated to hit arbitration, Cain has one more year before he’s a F/A, Bumgarner has more year before he gets to arbitration.)
Double-bonus positivity: The Giants seem to have finally given up the ghost on Barry Zito. He should comes to camp with less than a 10% chance of winning a starting spot in 2012.
What they do with Zito after that, I don’t know, but if they want to win, they can’t ever pencil him in as a regular starter.
-Conclusion: The Giants’ big three of Lincecum, Cain and Bumgarner are long-term horses, and that alone should keep the Giants in contention into 2012.
3. Buster Posey is on track to return as a catcher for 2012.
Clearly, this still has to be proven once Posey gets to spring training and shows his ankle can take the day-after-day grind behind the plate.
But everybody knows that Posey is much more valuable to the Giants as a catcher than at first base or anywhere else he might have to be moved to.
There are a lot of guys as good as Posey at 1B in the NL. There are none who play catcher, except him.
Posey might never catch 140 games again, and might move to 1B eventually, but it’s a positive sign for the Giants to be talking solely about him as a catcher six months before Opening Day 2012.
-Conclusion: Posey is still odds-on to be the Giants’ most important player for the next decade, and teams with great catchers usually win consistently.
4. The Giants re-signed (and wasted some money on) Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell partly to maintain the good vibes of 2010, but they avoided over-committing to Juan Uribe and Edgar Renteria.
I thought Uribe was a big, big loss, but he had a horrendous season with the Dodgers–2010 might’ve been his last flash. And it’s not like Miguel Tejada made anybody forget about Uribe or Renteria’s 2010 contributions.
And OK, the team’s commitment to Huff partially blocked Brandon Belt, but Belt had his own struggles this season. (Burrell doesn’t count as a big bad deal because he only cost $1M.)
But the reality is that the Giants could’ve gone nutso to bring back their 2010 heroes in free-agency, and all they really got stuck with is an extra year of Huff.
-Conclusion: The Giants’ payroll in 2012 isn’t looking good, but it could’ve been A LOT worse if they’d tossed money at two more aging infielders last off-season.
5. Pablo Sandoval re-emerged as a true middle-order hitter.
Really, until Beltran kicked it into gear a few weeks aftter his acquisition, Sandoval was the Giants’ only dangerous hitter.
The Giants sure need him. But they had better keep monitoring his weight, because it went back up as the season wore on.
-Conclusion: Sandoval and Posey are the core of the Giants’ lineup, and should be for many years. Now all they have to do is find three or four more solid hitters–which is better than having to find five or six.
6. The Giants ate up another year of the horrendous Zito contract(two more to go!) and cut loose Aaron Rowand (with one year left) and Miguel Tejada.
The problem is that, together, the money owed to Zito and Rowand still basically makes it impossible for the Giants to go after a huge free agent for another two years or so.
-Conclusion: Any year where the Giants are in semi-contention with the Zito and Rowand deals weighing them down is a pretty good year.
7. The Giants probably have found something in Brett Pill.
I was as skeptical as most were about a 27-year-old, six-year minor-leaguer, but all Pill has done is hit–1.019 OPS in his first 10 games–in his brief time in the majors.
Nobody should write him in for 500 plate-appearances next season, but given the Giants’ need for power bats, Pill has to be somebody they look at for time at 1B.
I think he goes into 2012 spring training slightly behind Belt in the 1B derby (and Belt can also play LF), and on almost equal footing with Huff. That’s being realistic. 
-Conclusion: When somebody’s hitting in the high-minors, the Giants’ can’t afford to pooh-pooh anything about him, at any time.
8. The Giants have a budding closer-of-the-future in Sergio Romo.
Forget the triple to Goldschmidt last night–Romo has been incredible almost all season and did one of the toughest things in baseball: Followed up a good set-up season with a great set-up season.
-Conclusion: Brian Wilson is the guy, but he might not have to be the only guy in 2012, especially if his elbow keeps barking at him.
9.  The Giants didn’t burn service time and rush OF Gary Brown to the big club in September.  
A mid-season jump from A-ball to the big leagues is too much for a young hitter.
-Conclusion: Brian Sabean and his staff stuck to their guns on this one, and they were right. Justin Christian did everything Brown might’ve, and probably more.
10. They could win almost 90 games while also scoring the fewest runs in the National League.
-Conclusion: How many games can they win if they move into the middle of the offensive pack? Answer: They could have another parade if that happens soon.

Wednesday, September 14, 2011

Salaries and Obligations for 2012

The Giants paid $95 million and it got them a World Series.  In an effort to keep the band together and then to shore up the roster while shipping player after player to the DL the 2011 payroll swelled to $118 million (not including the money embezzled by a Giants payroll manager). Looking ahead to 2012, the money situation and obligations look like this:



2011 2012 Contract Length
Beltran, Carlos $20 mil FA 7 yr/$119M (05-11)

Zito, Barry  $18.5 mil  $19 mil  7 yr/$126M (07-13)+14 cl opt

Lincecum, Tim  $14 mil  Arb 3  2 yr/$23M (10-11)

Huff, Aubry  $10 mil  $10 mil  2 yr/$22M (11-12)+13 cl opt

Cain, Matt  $7.3 mil  $15.3 mil  3 yr/$27.25M (10-12)

Wilson, Brian  $6.5 mil  $8.5 mil  2 yr/$15M (11-12)

Ross, Cody  $6.3 mil  FA  1 yr/$6.3M (11)

DeRosa, Mark  $6 mil  FA  2 yr/$12M (10-11)

Sanchez, Freddy  $6 mil  $6 mil  2 yr/$12M (10-11), 1 yr/$6M (12)

Sanchez, Jonathan  $4.8 mil  Arb 3  1 yr/$4.8M (11)

Affeldt, Jeremy  $4.5 mil  opt ($4.5)  2 yr/$9.5M (10-11)+12 cl opt

Lopez, Javier  $2.3 mil  FA  1 yr/$2.375M (11)

Keppinger, Jeff  $2.3 mil  Arb 3  1 yr/$2.3M (11)

Torres, Andres  $2.2 mil  Arb 2  1yr/$2.2M (11)

Ramirez, Ramon S. $1.6 mil  Arb 3  1 yr/$1.65M (11)

Casilla, Santiago  $1.3 mil  Arb 3  1 yr/$1.3M (11)

Fontenot, Mike  $1,05 mil  Arb 3  1 yr/$1.05M (11)

Burrell, Pat  $1 mil  FA  1 yr /$1M (11)

Cabrera, Orlando  $1 mil  FA  1 yr/$1M (11)

Mota, Guillermo  $925k  FA  1 yr/$0.925M (11)

Vogelsong, Ryan  Arb 3  1 yr (11) (No one seems to know what he made)

Posey, Buster  $575k  1 yr/$0.575M (11)

Sandoval, Pablo  $500k  Arb 1  1 yr/$0.5 (11)

Bumgarner, Madison $450k  1 yr/$0.45M (11)

Romo, Sergio  $450k  Arb 1  1 yr/$0.45M (11)

Schierholtz, Nate  $432k  Arb 1  1 yr/$0.4325M (11)

Whiteside, Eli  $425k  Arb 1  1 yr/$0.425M (11)

Runzler, Dan  $418k  1 yr/$0.4185M (11)

Belt, Brandon  $414k  1 yr/$0.414M (11)

Adrianza, Ehire  Minor League Contract (MLC)

Burriss, Emmanuel  MLC

Crawford, Brandon  MLC

Edlefsen, Steve  MLC

Ford, Darren  MLC

Gillaspie, Conor  MLC

Pill, Brett  MLC

Sanchez, Hector  MLC

Stewart, Chris  MLC

Surkamp, Eric  MLC

Rowand, Aaron  $13.6 mil  $13.6 mil  (The Giants will owe $13.6 for 2012 minus any contract that he signs with another team)


Lets start at the top.  I think the Giants should resign Beltran, but how many years and what kind of money will he be looking for will make it difficult.  If the term is reasonable (a year or two, even though he will be looking for 3 or 4 years) then sign him, any more and its a tough pill to swallow (even though Sabean has been chugging them down lately).  I would move him to left and get Schierholtz back in right, I just think Nate is better in right and that Beltran will be excellent in left (if Beltran is signed look for him to stay in right, just my two cents).

Lincecum will be looking for a 3 or 4 year deal, I say give him 7 and a pile of money.  He has proven his skill, competitiveness, athleticism and durability.  Also, offer Cain a similar deal, even though its early, and keep them together for the next 6 or 7 years, even though Cain is due a nice bump (from 7.3 to 15.3) I say nail him down.

I like Huff, but I have been clear that the amount and length, of his contract, was a mistake and his crappy season only makes it look worse.  My issue with the money and term wasn't that he didn't deserve something for last season, it was that it wasn't realistic to assume his best season in years would be repeatable and with Belt & Pill looming, all I can say is dumb!  Anyhow, he is here and were stuck with him, nobody will accept that money in a trade, but it may be possible to get someone to take a big portion of it (maybe $5 or $6 mil).

Ross, DeRosa, Burrell, Lopez, Cabrera and Mota are all free agents next season.  I would love to see Mota and Lopez stay, but the rest of the league would love to break up the Giants bullpen.  It may cost a bunch to keep those two.  I really like Ross and DeRosa, but for $6 mill each and the role that DeRosa will play is too steep.  Perhaps for less money, the team, management and I love the guy.

Ross, is a much more difficult proposition.  He can platoon with Torres in center, take it if Andres has another down season (which would spell the end of him) or play any other outfield position to rest Beltran or Schierholtz, and comes through in the clutch offensively.  He has had a bum season by comparison to 2010 and his career stats, but as a veteran, he should bounce back and his numbers in 2011let the Giants sign him at similar or less guaranteed with incentives.

Jeff Keppinger is a more difficult guy to place.  With Freddy Sanchez coming back (we hope at 100%) Keppinger seems like the odd man out, but, I really like the guy on offense and defense; if Freddy isn't the guy he was, JK is a perfect replacement and possibly a good long term fit at second base when Freddy is gone.  However, he will probably cost $3 mil next season and may want a 3 or 4 year deal to take less in 2012.

Cabrera is almost certainly gone.  With Winter-ball and spring to see how Crawford develops, the team can look at the SS position and either Fontenot and/or Burriss as the infield utility guy.  The question is if the team will ever value Burriss as much as they value Fontenot?  If not, I think Burriss is gone to a Minor League FA contract, as Eugeneo Valez and others have.  The Giants minor league system is very well developed and players can languish there, when they may get a better Big League shot somewhere else.  I think Short Stop is Crawfords to loose.  If he isn't where they want him to be, a short stop could be the big trade for Jonathan Sanchez and/or some other arbitration eligible player.

A bite on the payroll to note, is the $13.6 mil owed to Rowand for next season. If he gets a job elsewhere the difference is taken, but I think someone will give him $6 or $8 and the Giants will be on the hook for the rest.

Laslty, regarding the pitching staff, the only issue is having too many options.  Zito isn't going anywhere unless the team is willing to eat $45 mil. and they won't.  Zito's contributions & money owed vs. the uncertainty about Sanchez and question of Vogelsong's ability to repeat this years performance, make Zito a certainty to be back in the #5 spot.  I hope Vogelsong can repeat and with Surkamp on the back burners, I would shop Sanchez.  I hate to say it, but despite his obvious talent, his lack of mental control and the truckload of money that his agent, Scott Boras, will be looking for make him the guy to trade, but only for a significant upgrade, somewhere, such as Short Stop or Center Field.

Torres was off this season, raising questions of fluke performance last season, which leaves a weakness in center and at the lead off spot, without a clear options.  Ross wasn't much better; Ford may still need some time to prove he's an every day player and Christian hasn't exactly set the world on fire.


As of this moment the opening lineup next year may look like this:

1 - Torres or Ross
2 - F. Sanchez
3 - Beltran or Sandoval
4 - Sandoval or Beltran
5 - Posey
6 - Schierholtz
7 - Belt or Huff
8 - Crawford
9 - Pitcher

Beltran, Sandoval and Posey can flip around and should be formidable in the middle of the order.  If Schierholtz can continue to hit like he did this season, he would make an excellent # 6 as can Belt/Huff/Pill.  Laslty, the 1 and 2 spot, table setters have to be able to get on and steal bases as Torress (in 2010) and Freddy can.  This group, if productive, make Crawford's offense a bit less important; however, if he can hit .250 (and looking at his minor league numbers, he can) it's all good.

The final question is about the backup catcher.  Eli is an excellent backup catcher, knows the pitching staff; however, he has been a significant drop off in offense from Posey and has a good, but not great arm.  Stewart, has a cannon and was really good with the pitching staff, he can hit, but will he at the Big League level.  Sanchez is the wild card.  He has been very good and may require a year or two, but he would make a really good backup.  So, the big question "will Eli be back next year?"  I don't think so...

Let's look at the numbers.  Current Obligations are; Lincecum will be at $20 or $22 mil, Zito is at $19, Cain at $15.3, Huff at $10, Wilson at $8.5, Freddy Sanchez at $6; which puts the big contract obligations at  $79.8 mil. Plus, $13.6 for Rowand = $93.4 mil

Beltran will want at least another $20 mil, Affeldt has a $4.5 option, Lopez at $4 mil, Mota at $2 or $3 mil, then there is Romo, Sandoval, Schierholtz, Vogelsong, Casilla, Rameriez, Torres, J. Sanchez, Fontenot and Keppinger who are all arbitration eligible and I don't have a clue what the team will pay them and if any will be traded.  My point is that the payroll could easily go through the moon and the big money to Rowand, Zito and Huff will add to the difficult crop of these Arbitration eligible negotiations even before you add Ross, DeRosa and Burrell into the mix.

So, what will next years payroll look like?

If I missed something or you think I'm wrong, let it fly, I want your input...

Update1: If the Giants do not sign Beltran then the lineup will probably look something like this:


1 - Torres or Ross
2 - F. Sanchez
3 - Sandoval
4 - Posey
5 - Belt or Huff
6 - Schierholtz
7 - Ross or Burrell
8 - Crawford
9 - Pitcher


Unless significant changes are made.

Sunday, August 21, 2011

Who's ready to write off this season?

It looked like a great opportunity to go back and defend the title, until..

One injury after the other and dead bats from those playing.  Several of the guys playing are or have been playing hurt while the 20th player (not all of them unique) just went on the DL.  The D-Backs have been so-so, such that the Giants are only a couple of games back.  However, if they can't beat the Astro's how can the Giants beat anyone?

We know they can compete and win, with this team.  The first half showed just how grim things could get (players on and off of the DL then goes Buster Posey and Freddie Sanchez) and that thought it all, the Giants kept winning.  With the acquisition of Keppenger and Beltran, I think that the Giants could go on a tear if only Huff and Ross would heat up.  We miss Torres speed and bat and the bullpen has looked tattered over the last two weeks (after being so brilliant for so long), but can they over come?

Can we pull out a playoff spot?  If so, can the G-men compete?

I think they can, but will they?

Monday, August 8, 2011

Following the Phillies visit, how worried should the Giants be?

That question really depends on your level of optimism or pessimism.  If your a Glass is half empty person, then you should really be concerned that Carlos Beltran has not been hitting consistently or with power.  You should be concerned that Ross, Torres, Schierholtz and especially Huff are still not hitting.  You should be concerned that the offense is batting .225 and only .174 with RISP.  The bullpen struggled a bit (by their standards) over the last 10 games.  Lastly, you should be concerned that the team is 2 for their last 10 since leaving Philly and have hit 15 home runs in the last month and every single one was a solo, an almost improbable feat.

If your a Glass is half full type, then you should be happy that Cabrera and especially Keppinger have been fantastic, Pablo is tearing it up and the pitching staff has been solid.  Additionally, the Phillies pitchers while good, looked hit-able, but the Giants poor plate appearances made them look better than they were.  Only the 2-9 loss against the Phillies and possibly the 1-6 loss against the D-Backs were out of reach to a team that isn't slumping.

What I take from this is that the Giants have a lot of moving parts right now, with several of them not hitting.  If Torres can improve is OBP and average and Huff can start hitting, then Beltran can start swinging with power as opposed to "just try and get on".  It would be nice to see Schierholtz and Ross hitting again with power and frequency.  With those minor offensive improvements the Giants can beat anyone, especially the Phillies.  As long as we are in August and remain in or near 1st place, I am not concerned.  However, September is fast approaching and anyone can get hot, lets hope its the Giants.

Side Note:  MLB reviewed the bench clearing scrum between the Giants and the Phillies.  The ruling was that Shane Victorino would get a 3 game suspension and a fine for charging the mound and shoving an umpire.  Ramirez, Whiteside and the Phillies Polanco would get undisclosed fines for their parts.  I think the Giants dodged a bullet, especially with Whiteside and possibly Pablo Sandovol, both getting off easy and all together, respectively.